Covid-19
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FallenAngelina
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I dunno if I'd call that an article so much as a whole lotta sensationalistic junk food. There's no science backing up the claims, just big disturbing pictures. The science of this virus's origins points more and more to plain ole human encroachment on natural habitats, which Vinsanity's posted article explains.
If you think what you posted is an article, you need to go back to school. It was three big pictures and a few headlines.
The markets aren't the problem. People need markets to buy food. Where else are they going to get their food? Don't you get your food from a market?
The WHO knows people need food to be healthy. Therefore, they're not going to stop people from buying food.
Were those sentences short and simple enough for you?
WOW. Magdlyn brings a whole new meaning to toxic comments and nasttyness. Attacking people because we disagree with them is a sign of emotional woundedness.
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WOW. Magdlyn brings a whole new meaning to toxic comments and nasttyness.
"Nasttyness." Yep, I guess I'm what tRump would call a "nasty woman." Good one!
As I understand it, the real issue with the Chinese Wet Markets, isn't that they exist, but the lack of basic hygiene standards. I dont think it comes as surprise to any informed person that the Wet Markets were the origin of the latest pandemic. Pressure has to be placed on the Chinese authorities to clean up their act.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16940861
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16940861
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Ah, an actual study. Yes, no one can argue that good hygiene is important, and not just in China. There are similar open air markets all over the world. It's not like China's open air markets are particularly dirty or evil, as compared to those in any developing nation where resources are scarce.
We also need clean water sources for people in India and Africa, so they can wash their hands!
Sent to me by a good friend in Australia.
A quarantine is used to isolate sick people. When you lock up perfectly healthy people it’s called tyranny. Now look around at people who support being locked inside. Look who is willing to turn on their neighbors and people within their community who don’t comply with having their freedoms stripped. You’ll see many not only can’t recognize freedom versus tyranny but are exhibiting classic Stockholm syndrome where they feel a deep bond with their captors and will vehemently defend them.
So while you stay in lockdown they put in place the measures to further take away your rights & slowly, slowly tighten the noose until you forget what true freedom was. They’ll repeat phrases like, “Do the right thing” or “stay at home” or “It’s for your own safety”. But deep down we all know they don’t really care about us.
Let’s look at some Orwellian Overkills:
* Learner Drivers can’t practice driving on the roads.
* We are not allowed to relax at the beach in the open air.
* We are not allowed to go camping.
* We are not allowed to go surfing.
* We are not allowed to sit in a park enjoying nature.
* We are not allowed to go for a leisurely drive if it is 'not essential'.
* We are not allowed to visit our close family and friends (even if we maintain ‘social distancing’).
And to put top of things off the DOBBERS HOTLINE are inundated & can’t keep up with the calls of Australians throwing others Australians under the bus. Over 4,000 calls & 15 minute wait times. Can anyone else see the insanity in what is happening right now or is it just me? We are prisoners in our homes and our freedom has been taken away. Let’s put this in perspective …. 48 people have died in Australia out of a population of 24.6 million! 48 people have died and our entire country is in lock down creating a recession that will last more than a decade. (& whether those deaths have come from COVID19 is questionable)
* 24 people were diagnosed with Corona in Australia yesterday. Yes, only 24 out of 24.6 million ....
* 81,000 people have died of Corona globally since November while 131,000 people have died from seasonal flu. How many of these people were seriously sick or dying already before getting Coronavirus? We don't see those stats.
* 288,000 people have committed suicide this year. How many of these suicides were due to losing their jobs and losing all hope for humanity?
How many elderly people have died because they have given up hope after not seeing their loved ones for weeks? How many people have died due to lack of fresh air, exercise and being stuck indoors? How much more of this are we willing to take before we stand up and say enough is enough? Will we continue to sit back and let our human rights and freedom be taken away as another knot tightens in the noose? Soon we won’t be able to open the front door without getting a $5000 fine. There’s more at play here behind the corona curtain & I’ll have to say it’s one very well executed plan. These are the discussions we must start having!
I’m not buying it & more Aussies than ever before aren’t buying it & then there’s the others who've been taken hook, like & sinker who dob.
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I’m not asking people to believe me, I’m just asking that you ask questions & think outside of the mainstream narrative being pushed.
A quarantine is used to isolate sick people. When you lock up perfectly healthy people it’s called tyranny. Now look around at people who support being locked inside. Look who is willing to turn on their neighbors and people within their community who don’t comply with having their freedoms stripped. You’ll see many not only can’t recognize freedom versus tyranny but are exhibiting classic Stockholm syndrome where they feel a deep bond with their captors and will vehemently defend them.
So while you stay in lockdown they put in place the measures to further take away your rights & slowly, slowly tighten the noose until you forget what true freedom was. They’ll repeat phrases like, “Do the right thing” or “stay at home” or “It’s for your own safety”. But deep down we all know they don’t really care about us.
Let’s look at some Orwellian Overkills:
* Learner Drivers can’t practice driving on the roads.
* We are not allowed to relax at the beach in the open air.
* We are not allowed to go camping.
* We are not allowed to go surfing.
* We are not allowed to sit in a park enjoying nature.
* We are not allowed to go for a leisurely drive if it is 'not essential'.
* We are not allowed to visit our close family and friends (even if we maintain ‘social distancing’).
And to put top of things off the DOBBERS HOTLINE are inundated & can’t keep up with the calls of Australians throwing others Australians under the bus. Over 4,000 calls & 15 minute wait times. Can anyone else see the insanity in what is happening right now or is it just me? We are prisoners in our homes and our freedom has been taken away. Let’s put this in perspective …. 48 people have died in Australia out of a population of 24.6 million! 48 people have died and our entire country is in lock down creating a recession that will last more than a decade. (& whether those deaths have come from COVID19 is questionable)
* 24 people were diagnosed with Corona in Australia yesterday. Yes, only 24 out of 24.6 million ....
* 81,000 people have died of Corona globally since November while 131,000 people have died from seasonal flu. How many of these people were seriously sick or dying already before getting Coronavirus? We don't see those stats.
* 288,000 people have committed suicide this year. How many of these suicides were due to losing their jobs and losing all hope for humanity?
How many elderly people have died because they have given up hope after not seeing their loved ones for weeks? How many people have died due to lack of fresh air, exercise and being stuck indoors? How much more of this are we willing to take before we stand up and say enough is enough? Will we continue to sit back and let our human rights and freedom be taken away as another knot tightens in the noose? Soon we won’t be able to open the front door without getting a $5000 fine. There’s more at play here behind the corona curtain & I’ll have to say it’s one very well executed plan. These are the discussions we must start having!
I’m not buying it & more Aussies than ever before aren’t buying it & then there’s the others who've been taken hook, like & sinker who dob.
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I’m not asking people to believe me, I’m just asking that you ask questions & think outside of the mainstream narrative being pushed.
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FallenAngelina
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Think outside the mainstream narrative? You're so silly; this stuff is all over Facebook. What do you think Trump's stupid tweets were about last week? Yeah, real brave and maverick to say that drastic public health measures equal tyranny. This is just ultra right wing/paranoid conspiracy gibberish. If Australia has so few cases, then Australia's health officials will re-evaluate as time goes on, but there is absolutely no basis for accusations that this is a power grab, which is what tyranny is all about. Do you really think that every government official in every free country of the world suddenly has undergone a brain 180 and wants to tyrannize the people? Good grief.
I'm curious what you'd say to the people of my town. We have 4500 cases here. That's my town. My state has 243,000 cases, with 10,000 deaths, so far. Is this just part of the organized power grab, too, that we idiots are just too cowardly and blind to see?
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vinsanity0
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This statement is false and it is the first sentence.
Just fuck off with your tin foil hat. Australia and NZ's rigorous stances have undoubtedly prevented the devastation we've seen elsewhere in the world. I bet there's a hell of a lot less ordinary flu being contracted right now, too, although our flu season has barely begun as we're only really early Autumn right now, which is something to take into account.
There's no tyranny being enacted here, or Australia. Keeping cases low is a win, not a conspiracy. Honestly, letting covid run rampant through the population when it can be successfully managed through strict social isolation measures is more tyrannical.
There's no tyranny being enacted here, or Australia. Keeping cases low is a win, not a conspiracy. Honestly, letting covid run rampant through the population when it can be successfully managed through strict social isolation measures is more tyrannical.
WOW, what a mouth. I just bet you're a real piece of work. Thank God for the ignore list. You, along with several other toxic people on this site, have just been added to it. GET HELP.
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Look around. You're the only dissenting voice here. No one likes your "articles" or conspiracy theories.
vinsanity0
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The clutching of pearls will probably not get you very far.
FallenAngelina
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This number has already doubled since your statement was written. The global total is up to 166,000 and rising daily. In Australia, as in every other country, there is a direct correlation between drops in new cases and mandated social distancing.
River
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Anyone honestly watching what's happening with our local, state, provincial, national and global economies and food security/insecurity/distribution problems will have to acknowledge that, so far, my predictions are right on schedule. I'm not bragging about my predictive skills here, or tooting my own horn. I have MUCH more important things to do than to make this about ME. (I'm not that damned important, actually.)
But so far I've been spot on, and we still ain't seen nothing yet. I say this because we're going to have MAJOR food access problems, and the more of us that get that the better we will handle the contingency planning.
Doubt me? Use any actual internet search engine worth its salt and do some research. You will swiftly discover that FOOD access is becoming a real problem for a growing proportion of people and that employment -- and thus money with which to gain access to food in an exchange economy -- are shrinking fast, like the jobs that enable all that to function relatively smoothly. But, as I said, we ain't seen nothing yet. Most of us are going to be caught unprepared for what is coming, which means we are all going to be unprepared, since social collapse is not a walk in the park.
Okay, now feel free to rip me to shreds. I don't give a damn.
A few here may do as I suggest and explore with an internet search engine or two, and find out what's going on with "food security". They will swiftly discover that food security concerns are far, far greater now than they have been for quite a number of years or decades. And they will discover that there are some strange goings on even in the "first world" -- e.g., the United States. But they may grow bored soon, thinking that "at least I'm safe here in the first world." And some of the news reports are deliberately designed to provide us with this feeling that we in the "first world" are safe from a global food crisis. Or any other damn crisis, for that matter. But that's not where the rubber actually meets the road. All things are intertwined and interconnected, and what happens to people in Africa and Asia will visit us here in the Americas as well, as you'd discover if you went one level deeper into the inquiry. Few will do that. But a few will. It is the latter few who will be interesting to hear from here.
But so far I've been spot on, and we still ain't seen nothing yet. I say this because we're going to have MAJOR food access problems, and the more of us that get that the better we will handle the contingency planning.
Doubt me? Use any actual internet search engine worth its salt and do some research. You will swiftly discover that FOOD access is becoming a real problem for a growing proportion of people and that employment -- and thus money with which to gain access to food in an exchange economy -- are shrinking fast, like the jobs that enable all that to function relatively smoothly. But, as I said, we ain't seen nothing yet. Most of us are going to be caught unprepared for what is coming, which means we are all going to be unprepared, since social collapse is not a walk in the park.
Okay, now feel free to rip me to shreds. I don't give a damn.
A few here may do as I suggest and explore with an internet search engine or two, and find out what's going on with "food security". They will swiftly discover that food security concerns are far, far greater now than they have been for quite a number of years or decades. And they will discover that there are some strange goings on even in the "first world" -- e.g., the United States. But they may grow bored soon, thinking that "at least I'm safe here in the first world." And some of the news reports are deliberately designed to provide us with this feeling that we in the "first world" are safe from a global food crisis. Or any other damn crisis, for that matter. But that's not where the rubber actually meets the road. All things are intertwined and interconnected, and what happens to people in Africa and Asia will visit us here in the Americas as well, as you'd discover if you went one level deeper into the inquiry. Few will do that. But a few will. It is the latter few who will be interesting to hear from here.
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