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MrFrustration

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I'm a cis/het 38 year-old masculine fellow in a marriage that has been mono for nearly ten years. I came up with my screen name thanks to a significant libido differential between my partner and I that has been rather unfortunately augmented by a hormonal imbalance causing me to need TRT.

After coming across meant great, positive, and empathetic threads on this forum in my web searches for people with similar situations, I thought that I'd go ahead and make an account in hopes that some of you kind folks might be willing to offer your two cents. And who knows, maybe I'll be able to return the favor.

PS - I hope you enjoy my poorly drawn frustrated bear avatar :)
 
I'm a cis/het 38 year-old masculine fellow in a marriage that has been mono for nearly ten years. I came up with my screen name thanks to a significant libido differential between my partner and I that has been rather unfortunately augmented by a hormonal imbalance causing me to need TRT.

After coming across many great, positive, and empathetic threads on this forum in my web searches for people with similar situations, I thought that I'd go ahead and make an account in hopes that some of you kind folks might be willing to offer your two cents. And who knows, maybe I'll be able to return the favor.

PS - I hope you enjoy my poorly drawn frustrated bear avatar :)
I like your cute drawing!

As for your libido differential, I am going to assume your drive is higher than your partner's because you are taking testosterone? Prior to taking this supplement, were your libidos more evenly matched?

Is your partner female? I am not going to assume they are. Men can definitely have unequal libidos as well. Maybe you had ED and now you're in a place where your drive has become excessive instead of "just right."

Statistically men have stronger sex drives than women because they have more testosterone. Also, culturally, women are taught to suppress their sexualities. Men get socially rewarded for being horny (called "studs" admiringly), and women get punished (called "sluts" disrespectfully). This is changing, as "slut shaming" women is now seen as rude, and conversely, sometimes men can be "slut shamed" if they aggressively pursue sex with unwilling dating partners.

So, if you confirm that your sex drive is now higher, and your partner's (whether male or female) has remained the same, and that is the disparity, we can go from there.

Of course, there's always masturbation. And since you came to a board geared to polyamory, maybe you are poly and can seek more partners for more intimacy/sex.
 
Greetings MrFrustration,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.

Haha, I thought your bear avatar was a dog. In any case, I would be glad to offer my two cents, just let me know what your thoughts/questions are. And I have no doubts others will turn to you for help too. Nice to have you onboard, make yourself at home!

Sincerely,
Kevin T., "official greeter" :)

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I like your cute drawing!

Thank you! I thought it would be nice to have something silly on my profile and a think that the fact that I am not a skilled artist adds a wonderful derpy-ness it.

As for your libido differential, I am going to assume your drive is higher than your partner's because you are taking testosterone? Prior to taking this supplement, were your libidos more evenly matched?

There are a few factors there. On my side, I've always had a bit higher libido than herself (generally, 3-5/week for myself vs 1-2/week for her) but, due to mental, emotional, and physical health issues, along with hormonal birth-control, her libido dropped through the floor (0-1/month).

Is your partner female? I am not going to assume they are. Men can definitely have unequal libidos as well. Maybe you had ED and now you're in a place where your drive has become excessive instead of "just right."

You've actually rather hit the nail on the head. Thank you for not assuming but, yes, I am in a hetero relationship with a cis/bi woman. The ED was what spurned getting a medical opinion, which led to me finding out that I have a hereditary hormonal imbalance (would have been nice to have that info previously). While my bloodwork looks much better, I do spend much of the time with a higher libido than I had as a hormonally confused teen because of the TRT. And it also turned out to have a psychological component that I hadn't expected.

Statistically men have stronger sex drives than women because they have more testosterone. Also, culturally, women are taught to suppress their sexualities. Men get socially rewarded for being horny (called "studs" admiringly), and women get punished (called "sluts" disrespectfully). This is changing, as "slut shaming" women is now seen as rude, and conversely, sometimes men can be "slut shamed" if they aggressively pursue sex with unwilling dating partners.

I am extremely happy with the cultural trends there. For many years, I've intentionally used the term "slut" as a gender-neutral term with neutral to positive meaning effectively attempting to redefine it as someone who is sexually open and likely with higher libido/drive (I have called myself "a bit of a slut" for a while, despite not historically having THAT high of a libido). The "stud"/"slut" double standard always rubbed me the wrong way and is something that I refuse to accept.

So, if you confirm that your sex drive is now higher, and your partner's (whether male or female) has remained the same, and that is the disparity, we can go from there.

You're correct.

Of course, there's always masturbation.

Sex, to me, is more than just orgasms, so, masturbation never really fulfilled that need. That's largely how I handled it for about six years, while unhealthily bottling up my frustration, so as to try to not make my wife feel bad for things that she doesn't have any control over, and feeling guilty about feeling frustrated. Fortunately, I'm not doing that anymore and even more fortunately, I got a new therapist right as the emotional dam holding that in broke open, which helped to alleviate the tension that neither of us fully realized was there (and helped a lot with the libido discrepancy).

And since you came to a board geared to polyamory, maybe you are poly and can seek more partners for more intimacy/sex.

At this time, I am explicitly NOT seeking more partners but, rather to learn and see if there is a consensual non-monogamy structure that would be right for us, or at the very least figure out more about ourselves and ways that we relate to other people or wish to.

My wife and I have talked at length over the last few months (as well as in the past but we were both much younger and less emotionally mature) and have found that both of us have some degree of interest in non-monogamy. She comes from a rural, socially-conservative (Catholic) area, so, had some misconceptions about how non-monogamous relationships look. Her recently watching the YouTube channel "Soft White Underbelly" with its interviews of loving poly, swinger, and kink couples shattered a lot of those misconceptions. Still, I'm searching about for resources that are more to her speed (she's found some books like "The Anxious Person's Guide to Non-monogamy" to be too academic/clinical for her).

I hope that I don't come across as pressuring her into anything (being AuADHD can lead to some unfortunate miscommunication). I just have considered myself to be ambiamourous for a good while, leaning towards poly, and have known a number of people in poly and open relationships so, a lot of the concepts are not as novel to me (and I love learning about the ones that are).
 
Greetings MrFrustration,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.

Haha, I thought your bear avatar was a dog. In any case, I would be glad to offer my two cents, just let me know what your thoughts/questions are. And I have no doubts others will turn to you for help too. Nice to have you onboard, make yourself at home!

Sincerely,
Kevin T., "official greeter" :)

Thank you, very much for the greeting! I suspect that I'll be doing a fair amount of lurking (and already have). Hopefully, I can contribute enough to give back a small degree of the help that reading through others' posts has given me. That said, having ADHD means having a lot of good intentions that don't always get off the ground.

One question that I have is: What is the appropriate forum section for requesting advice? I might be overthinking but didn't see one that explicitly looked like the right venue.

Notes:

There's a *lot* of good info in Golden Nuggets. Have a look!

Please read through the guidelines if you haven't already.

Note: You needn't read every reply to your posts, especially if someone posts in a disagreeable way. Given the size and scope of the site it's hard not to run into the occasional disagreeable person. Please contact the mods if you do (or if you see any spam), and you can block the person if you want.

If you have any questions about the board itself, please private-message a mod and they'll do their best to help.

Welcome aboard!
<3 Thank you again! Having grown up with forums and intentionally breaking away from social media toxicity, I really appreciate positive and active mods.
 
Hello MrFrustration,

It is really difficult to conduct a relationship in which you want/need much more frequent sex than what your wife wants. And to complicate things, you could take on a second partner, only to realize that it's not just sex in general that you want, it is sex specifically with your wife. Taking on a second partner may or may not fix that problem. Plus if you open your marriage, your wife may find someone and in the thick of NRE, she may find her libido *for that person* going through the roof, while still only wanting sex with you once a month at the most. That would be a really hard thing for you to go through.

Usually people post in Poly Relationships Corner when they are looking for advice, that would probably be your best bet. More people post on that board, and you can get more of a range of advice, and choose what works best for you. Good luck!

Regards,
Kevin T.
 
Hello MrFrustration,

It is really difficult to conduct a relationship in which you want/need much more frequent sex than what your wife wants. And to complicate things, you could take on a second partner, only to realize that it's not just sex in general that you want, it is sex specifically with your wife.

There is some degree of this that I am already aware of, yes. However, sometimes one must adapt to unchangeable situations, which, for better and worse, I have grown accustomed to, having gone through most of my life without support for my AuADHD. And, philosophically at least, I do not find non-monogamy to be a significant adaptation for myself as much as being more genuine to my closely held feelings on relating to others. I feel that the human capacity to give and receive love of many forms is greatly underestimated and the idea that one person could meet all of one's needs/desires is a bit far-fetched.

Taking on a second partner may or may not fix that problem. Plus if you open your marriage, your wife may find someone and in the thick of NRE, she may find her libido *for that person* going through the roof, while still only wanting sex with you once a month at the most. That would be a really hard thing for you to go through.

Thank you for pointing this out. It is something that I think a lot of people are not expecting when they contemplate embarking on such a relationship journey.

However, this is actually something that I've personally already gone through to an extent - and in a rough way. We have discussed opening up the relationship, sexually, several times over the years, usually due to her health issues, generally with herself raising it as an offer to me. However, the most recent time that she did, she raised the suggestion for herself, which, after initially agreeing led to a bit of an emotional dam breaking (which didn't feel great at the time). Because I had not been fully communicative with her in how I was feeling, there was no way for her to know the impact that it would have on me (I didn't even know initially!). The extra experience of finding out how much more challenging it is to find matches as a cis/het man was an extra but if an emotional kick in the gut, especially as one who never liked the apps in the first place and the extra fun of rejection sensitivity from ADHD to boot.

So, yes, you are 110% correct there.

However, between finally being open with my feelings and frustrations after nearly six years of bottling them up and a fantastic therapist, the unpleasant experience had a great impact on our relationship with each other and ourselves. It's amazing how much of an impact something that both parties don't want to bring up, for fear of causing upset or hurt can cause. Just getting it out removed immense amounts of stress and pressure after the dust had settled.

The openness in our communication and greater mutual interest in discussing sexuality and adjacent things that we've arrived at, along with discovering local sex positive consensual non-monogamy/poly/kink communities, have renewed my own interest in exploring the possibilities. I had declined her past offers due to them coming not from a place of positivity and adventurousness but, her feeling insufficient as a spouse and woman because of her health issues impact on our sex life and uninformed view of non-monogamy at the time as failing at marriage and throwing in the towel to try to preserve the relationship (not the kind of feelings to wish on anyone, nor a solid foundation for exploring more complicated relationship structures).

Usually people post in Poly Relationships Corner when they are looking for advice, that would probably be your best bet. More people post on that board, and you can get more of a range of advice, and choose what works best for you. Good luck!

Regards,
Kevin T.

Thank you very much!
 
Hi MrFrustration,

It sounds like your communication with your wife has improved quite a bit, that is good to hear. Being aware of the possible pitfalls in opening your marriage, can do wonders for the connection you and your wife can have. Don't feel defeated, go forward with the polyamorous adventures, watching for the possible pitfalls and enjoying the closer relationship you and your wife will have.

Regards,
Kevin T.
 
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