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I'd like to see the research that shows that BIPOC people do not date, mate and marry at the same rates as Caucasians. I don't know why that would be. People are people.
I brought up the same point. I've known many non-white people, and they never had trouble dating. I prefer non-white women, but that hasn't made finding a partner any easier.
I think it does depend on a person's innate personality and confidence a lot, though. It would certainly help to live in a more racially diverse city, such as Portland, Oregon, for example.
I don't know about Portland, but there is no shortage of African American, Hispanic, Asian, and Native American people where I live.
 
I brought up the same point. I've known many non-white people, and they never had trouble dating. I prefer non-white women, but that hasn't made finding a partner any easier.

I don't know about Portland, but there is no shortage of African American, Hispanic, Asian, and Native American people where I live.
But do these groups in your area intermingle or tend to stay within their own communities?
 
Re: "Hey, I'm not much older! I'm only 67. Watch it, buddy." Haha, I know, I was just shooting for dramatic effect.
 
But do these groups in your area intermingle or tend to stay within their own communities?
Some of the immigrant communities do. But African Americans interact openly with white people and interracial relationships are very common.

I could ask how Portland is different in this regard.

Its a moot point anyway, since I am nowhere close to Oregon. I've hated this sh!thole I'm trapped in for decades, but do not have the means to relocate.
 
Try reading "how to win friends and influence people" - someone I loved swore by it.
 
Hmmmm, I'm curious -- why can't you relocate?
 
Well yes, but can't you save up? I would think if you could afford therapy (which you said you have had in the past), it would make sense that you could save up and get yourself out of that hellhole you're stuck in. [shrug] Maybe I'm wrong. I just think it's a shame that you have to live in a place where you can't find anyone to date.
 
Well yes, but can't you save up? I would think if you could afford therapy (which you said you have had in the past), it would make sense that you could save up and get yourself out of that hellhole you're stuck in. [shrug] Maybe I'm wrong. I just think it's a shame that you have to live in a place where you can't find anyone to date.
I am barely scraping by one month to next. Therapy was from a state agency.
 
Ah, I see your point.
 
In all honesty, I'd rather go abroad if I had the means.
I feel you on that one. I'm aiming to do that next year. I have literally nothing saved up right now, I'm just hoping to land a job asap.
 
I prefer non-white women, but that hasn't made finding a partner any easier.
Well of course not if you're seeking ENM.
But African Americans interact openly with white people and interracial relationships are very common.
Sure... among monogamous Christians.

That's the point. You're focused on the fact that non-white people do get dates. Of course they do. But you're not looking at it in its entirety. It's going to be extremely hard for a Muslim (or someone from a non-Christian background) in the BIBLE BELT to find partners for polyamory. It's not one of those things, it's all of those things.
 
Well of course not if you're seeking ENM.
What is ENM? And what does it have to do with anything?
Sure... among monogamous Christians.

That's the point. You're focused on the fact that non-white people do get dates. Of course they do. But you're not looking at it in its entirety. It's going to be extremely hard for a Muslim (or someone from a non-Christian background) in the BIBLE BELT to find partners for polyamory. It's not one of those things, it's all of those things.
I'm an atheist, not a Muslim.

I've met plenty of non-religious people and none of them faced challenges dating.

A while back I knew a woman who liked to bring girls to have threesomes with her and her husband. She's a Wiccan.

What does non-monogamy have to do with Christians anyway? Presumably, anyone who is in a non-monogamous lifestyle does not particularly care about adhering to Christian rules.
 
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I'm interested in exploring non-monogamy in general, but polyamory in particular. I'm open to exploring polyamory or swinging, but I don't want to limit myself to either at this point.

The challenge I'm facing is knowing how to find potential partners.
 
What is ENM? And what does it have to do with anything?
Ethical non-monogamy
 
Re: how to find potential partners ... we have already attempted to address that question.
Sure you've already tried some of those things, but not all of them, and the ones you have tried, may very well bring you better luck if you try them again. Maybe you need to retry some things with a fresh perspective, such as with the goal in mind of being more outgoing, and of exercising more of a positive attitude. Methinks you give up too easily. It's like Richard Bach says in his book, "Illusions" ... "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."
 
What is ENM? And what does it have to do with anything?

Ethical non-monogamy as explained earlier.
I'm an atheist, not a Muslim.

Sorry you presented yourself as from a Muslim background in the Bible belt.
I've met plenty of non-religious people and none of them faced challenges dating.

I know of many Athiests that have chosen to leave the Bible Belt to improve their social (and in turn, political) environment.It's certainly a reason many people choose not to move there.
A while back I knew a woman who liked to bring girls to have threesomes with her and her husband. She's a Wiccan.
So this is a guy who has found someone sufficiently compatible to marry. They have an established relationship and have chosen to have casual sex with other women.

It seems like you're still in the position of having to find a wife to be in the husband's shoes. They aren't having threesomes with other men.

We're still stuck at you finding one partner and building a relationship that may or may not be open.

What does non-monogamy have to do with Christians anyway? Presumably, anyone who is in a non-monogamous lifestyle does not particularly care about adhering to Christian rules.
On the contrary, there are branches of Christianity where non-monogamy is the norm. Whether it can be called ethical is debatable.

If you look somewhere like Fetlife, you see many kinky and poly couples who are very strong Christians. They have groups and all that. Conservative types. They usually practice something close to polyfidelity in line with their Christian beliefs. It's often only open for the men anyway.
 
Sorry you presented yourself as from a Muslim background in the Bible belt.
It's complicated. I come from a Muslim family and had an Islamic upbringing. But that doesn't mean I am a Muslim. I mentioned overcoming religious indoctrination.
I know of many Athiests that have chosen to leave the Bible Belt to improve their social (and in turn, political) environment.It's certainly a reason many people choose not to move there.
I've been wanting to get away for over a decade, but have not been able to because of financial limitations.
 
So, to recap

You're 41
You were raised Muslim but are now atheist
You have light skin and blue eyes
You went to college
You've been to Poland
You're a teacher (?)
You struggle to pay rent, much less be able to travel or move out of the Bible Belt
You've only ever had one romantic relationship, but it was toxic
You struggle to find women to date monogamously, much less polyamorously

Generally, women are not interested in 41 year old men who are broke. There will be exceptions, but it is a problem.

If you are a teacher, is the pay that bad that you can barely afford rent, much less do a little traveling or be able to move out of that hellhole?
 
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