The journey to myself

More fun news, today I went to a rope jam to reap some of the rare benefits of my open relationship :)
I met the man I tied with in the summer. Surprisingly enough, it still worked. It was different, surprisingly intense in comparison to how gentle he was before (we eventually used the bamboo for semi-suspension) - but I asked for it. He showed a good feel for the place that's stimulating and not overwhelming.
It felt very intimate as well.
My body's defence and pleasure mechanisms worked well, releasing endorphins and the other hormones, so I'm still swimming on a cloud now. Expressing my thanks to my body which works well enough again, after all it's been through in the past months, to allow this! Expressing my thanks to the rigger as well :)
 
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More fun news, today I went to a rope jam to reap some of the rare benefits of my open relationship :)
I met the man I tied with in the summer. Surprisingly enough, it still worked. It was different, surprisingly intense in comparison to how gentle he was before (we eventually used the bamboo for semi-suspension) - but I asked for it.
I'm having a little bit of an vulnerability hangover, as I'm not very used to going deep into subspace, emotional vulnerability and erotica with anyone but Idealist, but really just a bit. I'am getting some extra care and I needed that.

I'm still surprised how well it went. I could tell he's not that experienced in handling suspension lines, se when we switched from the floor to partial, I expected one of several common failures - failed technique, adherence to some idea that just doesn't work and getting stuck at what to do next, or going too quick or too much with pain and me having to stop stuff. Instead what I got was a tie I was able to relax into over time and balance at exactly the level that was challenging but stimulating in a good way, and touch when I needed it. I didn't know he had it in him (and he certainly seemed surprised when I told him how challenging yet balanced it was, so it must have been pure instinct). If we manage to meet more regularly, I may even give him a nickname ;) He also took me home in an old-fashioned caring way afterwards, so I'll be calling him GentleMan.
I'm glad to have some privacy after the scene, as this is a different city.

We must do a good scene with Idealist soon as well. He's lost confidence because of our struggles (and his work burnout), but he's absolutely a man who has instinct, skill and even more emotional bandwidth. We did one on Monday, but it was me tying, which is my less favored modality, so.
It's so good to be able to tie again!
 
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We won a tournament in "pair go" (go is that japanese boardgame) with a friend of mine today. My attentionspan isn't anywhere close to where it used to be most days, but with a bit of caffeine help it worked, so I can't be completely stupid yet!
 
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I've never been much of a gamer. Back in the day I enjoyed backgammon. Now I am very happy to play Uno or Sorry, and that's about it. I have NEVER had the brain for chess, and I totally resist the videogames everyone is always trying to get me to play.

Oh, for the days when my kids and I wouldn't play anything more challenging than Candyland.
 
Ok. Ehm.
I'm hopefully seeing Gentleman again in two weeks.
But there's more going on emotionally than I was prepared for. Something touched me deeply and revealed my vulnerable side, which was a lot to process in and of itself, but I also feel like maybe I'm love a bit, which is not what I aimed for with this man.

I'm open to tips on how to handle NRE in day-to-day life, especially if you people have anything that helped you focus.
Scheduling is not an issue, emotional management is. I'm feeling distracted, horny and somewhat overwhelmed.

What I'm already doing:
- I'm trying to not make this personal (he gave me a great ropescene, but the experience is mine, he isn't the source of it)
- I'm trying to remind myself that this is "just" a rope relationship and not text him too much; of course I did to give some feedback and thanks and we chatted about rope a bit, and also told him about yesterday's success, but today I didn't write anything
- redirect sexual energy to Idealist as much as possible
- I drew a picture to help contain my emotions

I still feel there's a lot.
 
Of course you've read over and over how it's hard to separate sex and love, for poly people. This is kink, not sex, but I'm pretty sure the exact same hormones/endorphins are stimulated, dopamine, oxytocin, etc. And as you know, there is a lot of vulnerability and trust needed in a good intense kink scene. Unless your kink partner is off-putting in some ways, I think it's quite natural to get NRE (or more), especially if you meet with the other person more than once. Also, if they're good at aftercare, that will make you just float and melt in their arms as you come back to earth.

I'm not sure why you're fighting it with this man... (I'm sure you have your reasons.) But if you're feeling "too" bonded, I'd have to say you need do the things swingers do. Don't make eye contact. (Wear a mask?) Don't cuddle after the scene. (I'm not sure you're one-on-one in private, or at a club. If you're at a club, maybe someone else could provide aftercare.) Don't do "vanilla" things together. Not spending much time texting or calling is a good idea.

If all else fails, you'll have to stop seeing him.

On the other hand, since things are rocky with Idealist, you could just go with the flow and enjoy your NRE... (That's probably what I would've done haha)

For me, kink is completely tied to sex. I don't want kink without sex (at least orgasms for me) along with it. And that's just going to increase the bonds.

However, I have done a few kink scenes with 4 or 5 guys who didn't actually care for sex much, or at all, so the kink had to stand on its own. For me, that wasn't bad... but it wasn't great either. When kink is tied to great sex, it's absolutely life-changing for me. And I find that a positive. It's a treasure. Some kink or sex partners can be so damn bad, that I really appreciate it when it's great, and soul-stirring and bonding.
 
Of course you've read over and over how it's hard to separate sex and love, for poly people.
Apparently, I have to learn the hard way... 🤣🤣🤣 Over and over!

I'm not even sure I am a "polyamorous person", as in by orientation (vs. by choice in a polyamorous relationship structure), I may just be plain old serially monogamous as far as bonding goes, with the capacity to have a bit of a crush (or even a big crush) while already in a relationship. I was afraid I may fall out of love with Idealist if I try to have a relationship with someone else, luckily so far this isn't happening, we're bonding as much as possible. Idealist is not jealous this time, so that helps!
This is kink, not sex, but I'm pretty sure the exact same hormones/endorphins are stimulated, dopamine, oxytocin, etc. And as you know, there is a lot of vulnerability and trust needed in a good intense kink scene. Unless your kink partner is off-putting in some ways, I think it's quite natural to get NRE (or more), especially if you meet with the other person more than once. Also, if they're good at aftercare, that will make you just float and melt in their arms as you come back to earth.
I know! I believe the dive is even stronger.
I'm not sure why you're fighting it with this man... (I'm sure you have your reasons.)
Turns out he's married and DADT (kind of the lowest ethical standard I can accept, but he assured me she's got her own ventures). Not much room to deepen a relationship.
Not that much room for a time commitment on my side either, since I'm in his city two evenings a week max, and generally low on energy.
Also, obviously, he isn't tying just me, I assume feelings are different on his side.
I came to a jam and chose a rigger by the only criteria that I liked how he tied. That's now almost a year ago (but because of my poor health mostly, we've only tied for the third time now). I was in a bit of a funk where I wasn't sure if I'm even still into bdsm. At least that question has been now answered with certainty 🤣
But if you're feeling "too" bonded, I'd have to say you need do the things swingers do. Don't make eye contact. (Wear a mask?) Don't cuddle after the scene. (I'm not sure you're one-on-one in private, or at a club. If you're at a club, maybe someone else could provide aftercare.) Don't do "vanilla" things together. Not spending much time texting or calling is a good idea.

If all else fails, you'll have to stop seeing him.
Yeah, I'd rather cut contact than put restrictions on aftercare, but I hope it doesn't have to come to that.
I'm refraining from meetings out of the rope space (tempted!)
On the other hand, since things are rocky with Idealist, you could just go with the flow and enjoy your NRE... (That's probably what I would've done haha)
The question is, am I able to do that without it becoming more torture than fun under these circumstances.

I'm not sure I ever told that story, but NRE with Idealist was... absolutely life-shattering. I had a monogamous partner back then (whom I polybombed), and it took almost half a year for us to accept and resolve the situation. One moment I wanted to cut contact with Idealist (and we were not even doing kink yet at that point, we've just seen each other a few times, but oh the potential...). Two weeks later, after sitting through lectures at school not understanding a word, I was like "fuck it, I need to see him, or else I'm going to a psych ward now". There was much more going on than just NRE, but the intoxication was so strong.
I don't have a ton of experience with NRE since. I've had a huge crush on a rope teacher who also tied me once (which was life-altering!), but that could not develop beyond that one time.

However, I don't want to avoid NRE for the rest of my life because it may become too strong. I want to learn to handle my emotions better so that it doesn't interfere with my work and life (too much), so that's why I'm asking how y'all do it.

Am I making any more sense now?
For me, kink is completely tied to sex. I don't want kink without sex (at least orgasms for me) along with it. And that's just going to increase the bonds.

However, I have done a few kink scenes with 4 or 5 guys who didn't actually care for sex much, or at all, so the kink had to stand on its own. For me, that wasn't bad... but it wasn't great either. When kink is tied to great sex, it's absolutely life-changing for me. And I find that a positive. It's a treasure. Some kink or sex partners can be so damn bad, that I really appreciate it when it's great, and soul-stirring and bonding.
Sex, as in penetration, is off the table (on both sides, I believe). But it was still quite strongly a sexual experience 😅

It's not just bonding, these are real altered states of consciousness. It truly is a treasure.

I'm just worried whether it may come at a price too high. But it may be just that - worried.
 
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Unfortunately, GentleMan had to cancel today :(
Yai for busy life.
 
I'm kind of finally verifying first-hand some of the wisdom of this board, like "doing something with one partner doesn't mean you don't miss doing that thing with the other one". Lol. It's perhaps (certainly) overboard to call GentleMan a partner, but my limerance isn't gone.
 
Are you and Idealist still doing kink activities together, or has that fallen by the wayside?
 
Are you and Idealist still doing kink activities together, or has that fallen by the wayside?
It has most definitely not fallen by the wayside, but there were stretches where we could not really meet that way, both due to illnesses and relationship issues. He's still an amazing top when stuff clicks. Which it did, but it didn't make my limerance go away, lol.
I hope next time works out with Gentleman ;)

It's ok, I'm doing well (compared to how badly fatigued and brainfogged I was January or even beginning of March),
just spending too much time procrastinating online and obsessing somewhat anxiously 😅, but I'm more sexual and just generally more open, so yai for NRE even in this kind of limited long distance thing.
 
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I had a really nice evening with Gentleman on Tuesday (finally). Not a huge-emotional-opening-altered-consciousness-totally-horny like last time (which is probably a good thing), but really nice.
I miss him. I'm not actually terribly physically attracted to him personally, but I like his touch and his rope and we have stuff to talk about beyond kink - there's nothing like getting to know a new person and discovering shared interests.
On the surface limerance/NRE is painful. On a deeper level I feel like I was looking to get tied and what I gained is a close (friendly and safe) person. Incredibly valuable.
 
I got fired. Well, not fired, but my contract won't be renewed, so there goes my last chance at an academic career. I can't blame my boss, he really had no other choice. I won't blame myself for poor performance either, because it clearly is - in part at least - a yet unrecognised health problem. Poor habits and lack of discipline all along my path since forever, sure, but my constant tiredness since my hospitalisation in late November last year could be connected to a sleep issue (which I'm waiting to get examined), or something else entirely.

Of course, although it wasn't unexpected at all, it still feels devastating.

Since we had a session planned, GentleMan had the "honor" to wipe my tears.
 
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After another four days of the self-experiential training I'm part of, I am very much aware of my craving for touch and connection as well as the emotional states when I reject touch or company.
 
I'm thinking about trying to sell myself as a counselor on poly and bdsm issues (irl, not online). Gulp. I even found a place I can rent by the hour for people work, but I'm terrified.
A therapy license is entirely out of my reach because of wrong education, but I do have some training. So I might do a mix of educating people and helping them sort through their issues (stopping short of trying to 'treat' any disorder etc.).
Whoever has any experience in this regard or may just be open to talking more, please pm me.
 
I'm sorry your work contract was not renewed. I think you'd be very good at poly/kink counseling. You give great advice here!

Good luck as you find a new path forward.
 
If I want to do counselling, I need to choose a new pseudonym, and I absolutely hate that fact :(
I don't dare put my real name connected to these topics out there on the internet, not for potential emplyers to google as the first thing they learn about me. Or can I?

Unfortunately, I can't go with Tinwen either because of this forum. I've used this nickname as my fake profile for poly and rope on facebook too and I've grown somewhat accustomed to it over the years; I'd happily continue with that identity. But there are limits to public honesty which I'm afraid that I overstepped severely on this forum. It's bad enough acquintances from the rope community might google my relationship problem here, I can't have potential clients google "Tinwen polyamory" and land on this blog. Or can I?
I mean, recent years... not so bad, but the old stuff...

So, pseudonym, and effectively a third identity it is. Omg. How am I gonna choose one, get used to it and reconcile it with my existing profile... While there are much more severe issues, I'm stuck on this one!
 
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I suggest a pseudonym that sounds like an ordinary name rather than a deliberate nickname, easier to build a professional brand around "Rachael Sampson" (for example) than around "Tinwen" regardless of what you're doing. Think of it as like what an author does, the first that springs to mind is George Elliot, but although George is either out of date or gender neutral these days, I'm not suggesting you totally fake it. Do you have a middle name you could use? And a mother or grandmother's maiden name? I'm not sure how surnames work in your part of the world.
 
I suggest a pseudonym that sounds like an ordinary name rather than a deliberate nickname, easier to build a professional brand around "Rachael Sampson" (for example) than around "Tinwen" regardless of what you're doing. Think of it as like what an author does, the first that springs to mind is George Elliot, but although George is either out of date or gender neutral these days, I'm not suggesting you totally fake it. Do you have a middle name you could use? And a mother or grandmother's maiden name? I'm not sure how surnames work in your part of the world.
Thanks. You inadvertently made my day - I just imagined my mother's reaction to connecting her surname with these topics :D (she never changed it despite being married)

I think she would be shocked and speachless at first. Maybe furious. She ideally doesn't want to hear a single word about bdsm - I shared with her that we tie because I wasn't going to lie abou my weekends, and she always made a long face and once suggested I just say "flowers".
But maybe I'm doing her a disservice with that assumption, maybe she'd be cool already.

But it would be indeed easier to connect to a family name I know.
 
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