Happily married man who is woefully confused.

DrRedX

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Hello everyone,

My name is Tim. I believe I'm a pansexual?? Male, but that's a problem for a different discuss lol. My wife and I have been married for 8 years. Lately I have felt that there is a hole in me that I can fill. I have more love to give than what my wife and accept. I have a friend who is poly and "educated" me about it. Based on definitions and gut feelings I think I'm poly.

I'm here to try and get educated and for guidance. I have not discussed these feelings with my wife yet because I want to have all of my facts straight. I can't risk losing her over this, but I'm worried that I truly am a poly man "stuck" in manganous relationship.

Thank you all and have a fantastic day!
 
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Hi and welcome to the forum.

Very wise decision on becoming better informed / educated on not only poly theory but the day to day mechanics and practicalities of the new dynamic. My suggestion is read old thread and old blogs …new threads and new blogs to get an idea of what you really want as to better answer questions your wife is going to put to you when you decide to tell her about this change in your relationship. FYI having that conversation is going to risk losing her. Clearly I don’t you or your wife but it’s happens all the time. If the person is truly mono in mind set and sees a loss with NO real offsetting up side. AND No kids or financial entanglements it’s easy to just walk away right then. BUT doing some reading you’ll discover those threads as well.

Good luck with your research and good luck dropping the bomb.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum.

Very wise decision on becoming better informed / educated on not only poly theory but the day to day mechanics and practicalities of the new dynamic. My suggestion is read old thread and old blogs …new threads and new blogs to get an idea of what you really want as to better answer questions your wife is going to put to you when you decide to tell her about this change in your relationship. FYI having that conversation is going to risk losing her. Clearly I don’t you or your wife but it’s happens all the time. If the person is truly mono in mind set and sees a loss with NO real offsetting up side. AND No kids or financial entanglements it’s easy to just walk away right then. BUT doing some reading you’ll discover those threads as well.

Good luck with your research and good luck dropping the bomb.
Thank you very much. Any information for my research is very welcomed! My biggest concern is that she'll see it as me trying to use it as an excuse to sleep around, which is the farthest from the truth. I want intimacy and romance. Granted eventually I'll move into the physical aspect but right now I want another person to cuddle with, kiss, hug, care about etc. If that makes sense
 
Welcome.

You could start with basic reading links. Maybe these help you get started:




My biggest concern is that she'll see it as me trying to use it as an excuse to sleep around, which is the farthest from the truth. I want intimacy and romance.

When you are ready to have the conversation? State what it is you want.

You discovered you are poly. You want intimacy and romance with more than one person. No, it's not an excuse to sleep around. You want a chance at MORE commitments, not less.

Could ask her to repeat back what you just said in her own words so you know she got it how you mean it.

Then let her think whatever and have some time to digest. Because she can think whatever in her own head. That's her space, her job.

That is not your space or job. You job is to get YOUR thoughts in order and then communicate as clearly as you can. Because she cannot be a mind reader.

And this is your spouse. She deserves to know what's going on, right? Up front and honest?

I can't risk losing her over this, but I'm worried that I truly am a poly man "stuck" in manganous relationship.

You are not "stuck." I get that you love her a lot. You probably worry. You probably feel internal conflict things like "I think I want to poly" vs "I'm scared she won't want to do open marriage and it means breaking up." You hope she will agree to continue on this journey with you. But you understand this isn't the "original marriage deal."

Maybe there's a middle space. Where you can talk freely with her about your poly thoughts and feelings so it becomes "open enough" for you so you aren't going around afraid or bottled up. And you don't see anyone else so it stays "Closed enough" for her and both of you can be living authentically.

But if that's not open enough for you? Be honest about that. If you want to move on to dating other people over time? Say so. There's nothing wrong with wanting polyamory for yourself.

And if that's not closed enough for her? Or she doesn't want to know this poly side of you? She can be honest with you about that. There's nothing wrong with wanting monogamy for herself.

She married you under a different expectation, a different deal. She didn't sign up to take the bus to Poly Town.

And if marriage is "til death do us part" -- that's not just only physical death. Spiritual death also counts. (To me anyway.) If people have grown in significantly different directions, their values have changed? Which means the marriage agreements can no longer be kept in good faith? There's dealbreakers now? One loving thing is to ask to renegotiate rather than cheat on agreements. If that doesn't pan out? The last loving thing one can do is part as peacefully as possibly with some dignity and grace.

Maybe over time become good exes and friends, or just good exes. Because, being in a marriage just "going through the motions" isn't healthy for anyone.

  • Yes, there's a risk she doesn't want any of it and prefers monogamy.
  • Yes, there's a risk she's interested and willing to try, but in the trying you find out not actually able or you have different open/poly styles. (Being monogamously married for a time doesn't mean you are automatically poly compatible).
  • Yes, there's a risk she's interested, and willing to try, and in the trying you all find it works out.
You don't get to find out by magic. You have to do that asking.

So I encourage you to get your thoughts in order, and when ready talk honestly to your wife.

Galagirl
 
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Thank you very much! I can already tell joining this website was a great 1st step in the right direction!
 
! My biggest concern is that she'll see it as me trying to use it as an excuse to sleep around, which is the farthest from the truth. I want intimacy and romance. Granted eventually I'll move into the physical aspect but right now I want another person to cuddle with, kiss, hug, care about etc. If that makes sense

it’s hard to predict but actually romantic love and intimacy / sharing your heart might be more terrifying than sharing your body or physical stuff you could do.
 
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it’s hard to predict but actually romantic love and intimacy / sharing your heart might be more terrifying than sharing your body. Or physical stuff you could do.

Rarely do @dingedheart and I agree ;-) but in this case I think he's totally right. My marriage wasn't really *mono* since before we got married - we had played with other people mostly together, and intended to keep doing so. But those were meant to be physical fun, not romantic nor truly intimate.

So when Knight and I decided to start exploring dating other people, polyamory and not just casual hookups, that was a FAR harder transition than "just sex" ever was. I don't say this to scare you off, merely to point out that intimacy can be a far harder pill to swallow than "sleeping around" ever would be.
 
Greetings Tim,
Welcome to our forum. Please feel free to lurk, browse, etc.
Here are some resources to help you prepare to talk to your wife:
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Kevin T., "official greeter"

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That one is a classic and totally worth reading; make sure you get the third edition as they’ve updated many things.

I recommend Polysecure even more strongly.
 
Rarely do @dingedheart and I agree ;-) but in this case I think he's totally right. My marriage wasn't really *mono* since before we got married - we had played with other people mostly together, and intended to keep doing so. But those were meant to be physical fun, not romantic nor truly intimate.

So when Knight and I decided to start exploring dating other people, polyamory and not just casual hookups, that was a FAR harder transition than "just sex" ever was. I don't say this to scare you off, merely to point out that intimacy can be a far harder pill to swallow than "sleeping around" ever would be.
Ditto. Non monogamy was always easier than that first time I got hit with the love wall. Figuring out how or where I fit into poly... was brutal..

One thing that has.. settled me is treating being open like dating originally..

Sometimes I end up with a one night stand
Sometimes its a plaything (I am kinky)
Sometimes its a fwb
Sometimes its someone I enjoy dating
Sometimes its someone I love

Sometimes its all of the above or some of the above.
Move often than not it ends up being non of the above.

Exact same as being single. Not every relationship needs to be love. Thats one thing that always feels lost in the poly message, love is something you CAN achieve, its not something you will always achieve.

Good luck and enjoy the journey
 
There's a theory that, in our culture, women are less concerned about their husbands sleeping around casually than actually falling in love and wanting some commitment with someone. Love and marriage are tied up with resources, money, time, home maintenance, time with the kids, etc.

Of course, sharing sex with relative strangers is much more risky right now, during this never-ending pandemic, so that's a consideration too.

Love is infinite, time and resources are not.

Also, beware of NRE/infatuation. It can be extremely lovely, but so overwhelming it make us act legit crazy and neglect our commitments and responsibilities, and act like foolish teenagers.

Another good book to read about transitioning to poly (or any kind of consensual open relationship) for formerly monogamous couple is Opening Up.

One more thing: you're pansexual and maybe not as entirely male as you thought? I wouldn't mind hearing about how you think those aspects will factor into your future dating life. (I'm pan and non-binary.)
 
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