I'm in over my head

Wow. 36 days of this walk into the odd and unusual.

Tess and I have been spending more time with M. My fears, jealousy, anger and uncertainty have all but vanished.

Last night was odd for me. I picked up M from work and brought him back to our house. (M doesn't drive.) He and Tess actually started acting like boyfriend and girlfriend for the first time. (Still platonic right now.) There was a subtle undertone of sexual playfulness. M actually cracked a joke at dinner about Tess masturbating, which went right over my head at the time. Tess clued me in later. Me slow.

I have personally spent hours with M getting to know him. He's been over numerous times for dinner with us, but last night was the first time the walls started to drop, M stopped working so hard to impress us, and we all just had fun. A big difference was that Tess and M didn't drink vast amounts of wine, and actually spent quality sober time together.

We went out for dinner, came back to our house for a drink, and then headed out to a birthday party at a bar for a mutual acquaintance, where they talked and acted like a couple. People weren't sure who was with whom when we first arrived, including me.

Now that the fear has mostly subsided, it is interesting to take the observer role, and watch this relationship develop. As I no longer feel threatened by him, I have little or no problem at all letting M and Tess focus on each other when we're together. We're still working out some of the oddities of this three-person party. We're getting there.

I like M. He's an odd duck, but a good guy. Our age difference shows at times, as do our vastly different personalities and social styles, but we seem to be forming our own friendship, which has helped Tess immeasurably. Comics, guns, martial arts and action figures. His helping me heal from my back injury also puts him in a good light, a very good light.

M has been and remains the avatar for Tess and me in our journey into polyamory. He is and has been a near perfect starter boyfriend for us both. I've had the chance to experience Tess forming a relationship with another man, but not have to deal with the sex issue right away. It may never happen for them, but it has allowed her to have a lot of fun and learn more about how to work with me.

I'm okay with this moving into a sexual relationship now, no longer afraid of losing her. (If she's leaving there's fuck-all I can do about it anyway, so I might as well stop panicking and start living my own life.)

I'm starting my own company, joining a gym, reconnecting with old friends and spending time out on my own again. I've cleaned up and cleared out most of the distractions I had created to keep me from seeing where my life was going before this began. I have spent $7000.00 on dental work that is still ongoing. Add in all that is polyamory, and there you have it, my first month as a mono in a poly world.

I still want to take time away from this, for me. I need time to recharge my spirit and just clear my head. It's been a fragging heavy month. I think I've earned it.

I still feel like an alien on Planet Crazy sometimes, but I'm trying. I'm really really trying.

Be well,
Freetime
 
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I think this should be posted in Poly Success Stories. You've come a long way, FT. So happy for you!
 
I'm okay with this moving into a sexual relationship now, no longer afraid of losing her. (If she's leaving there's fuck-all I can do about it anyway, so I might as well stop panicking and start living my own life.)

I'm starting my own company, joining a gym, reconnecting with old friends and spending time out on my own again. I've cleaned up and cleared out most of the distractions I had created to keep me from seeing where my life was going before this began. I have spent $7000.00 on dental work that is still ongoing. Add in all that is poly and there you have it, my first month as a mono in a poly world.
I am really glad to hear about the change in how you are seeing this. It seems that it's kind of an "I give up" way of looking at it. But in time, I hope you will see that there is a benefit to just letting go, one that is personal and very empowering, much like being a Zen warrior, in a way, on your own path, yet right alongside others.
 
Thanks for sharing all of this. I think it highlights how getting to know a potential metamour can really take the fear out of this type of situation. It can become so natural that you don't even think about it over time. The closer you are, the faster it seems to bring this inner peace.
 
If she's leaving, there's fuck-all I can do about it anyway, so I might as well stop panicking and start living my own life.
This bit here is right on the money. It goes a long way to release us from the pressure of trying to 'own' someone, like society told us as we grew up.

Sounds like you have a lot of life to be living. Good luck with the ventures... and the dentures. ;)
 
Thanks for the cool update!
 
I think you should change the name of this thread. You are not in over your head, anymore. You are swimming fine. Good progress. Just keep it real and don't panic over the speed bumps.
 
I am so happy for you.

Thank you, TP. You've helped me to keep this real. You rock.

I think this should be posted in Poly Success Stories. You've come a long way, FT. I'm so happy for you.

Thank you. I'm still working, and probably always will be, on the emotional stuff that comes up. When I get overwhelmed, I come here and read how others are succeeding and making this work. Your life stories make a huge difference, as do the great advice and questions for me from the members.

It seems that its kind of an "I give up" way of looking at it, but in time, I hope you will see that there is a benefit to just letting go, one that is personal and very empowering, much like being a Zen warrior, in your own path, yet right alongside others.

Hi RP. You scare and amaze me, truly. You're an awesome human being, one who makes me both smile and look at things I sometimes would prefer not to.

Thanks for sharing all of this. I think it highlights how getting to know a potential metamour can really take the fear out of this type of situation. It can become so natural that you don't even think about it over time...

It really does benefit everyone involved to take the time to get to know each other. I hope to attain your level of acceptance and love one day. Seeing pictures of everyone in your world having dinner, out for a walk, or with other family, was both eye-opening and inspiring. Poly normalcy. Who knew? Thanks for the friendship and support. I'll be out your way in a bit.

It goes a long way to release us from the pressure of trying to 'own' someone. Good luck with the ventures... and the dentures.

Hahahahahahahaha! You, Sir, are a funny guy. But don't quit your day job.

Society can take a long walk off a short pier. Until someone has actually taken this walk, they have no idea what this is about. I didn't, still not certain I actually do, but I see you and yours living well and in love, and that inspires me to keep going and work this out. Thanks for the advice and encouragement.

Thanks for the cool update!

You're welcome.

Think you should change the name of this thread. You are not in over your head anymore. you are swimming fine. :D Good progress. Just keep it real and don't panic over the speed bumps.

Deal. I canna tell you how much your story and kindness has meant to me. Thank you.

Well, that's it for today, I think.

You make a difference every day in the lives of people you have never met, just by taking the time to share a wee bit of yourselves here on this interweb dealy thing. I'd never have made it with out you. And that's a fact.

Be well,
Freetime
 
Assorted nonsense and other thoughts.

Ethical Slut: hippies who want to fuck anyone and/or anything.

Sex at Dawn: intellectual propaganda for people who want to fuck anyone and/or anything.

Overall, lots of talk about reasons for wanting to have sex with others besides the person you're currently with, but not a lot of talk about choice or love. I'm still reading both, so this point of view may change, or not.

Poly Amory = Many Loves. Swingers = Many Fuckbuddies.

When this started, I wanted Tess to just have a fuckbuddy, a brief fling, and then we'd be back to normal.

Today I want her to find someone who will treat her with love, and respect our relationship.

Mono bashing-- why? It's subtle, but I see it in numerous posts, usually when folks use language to describe it as Quaint, Archaic, Artificial, etc. You folks do realize many of us here right now standing beside you are monogamous. I KNOW!!! Who knew? But it's true. We really are. We may be involved with someone who's polyamorous, but we ain't. We're just the men and women who want to, or currently are, supporting our life partners in creating the lives they want to live. That counts for something, right? I hope so.

And finally, a question. My wedding ring. I took it off, and off it's stayed. Do I wear it or not? It's such a small thing to get caught up on, but I am. Silly, but there it is.

I'm off to hug a dragon, mend some fences and love my wife.
 
I took it off, and off it's stayed. Do I wear it or not? it's such a small thing to get caught up on, but I am.

Maybe sitting down and coming up with some new vows to say to each other will make you want to wear your ring again. Your marriage is still strong (from what I gather), but the boundary lines have shifted and moved, and therefore no longer resemble the original. Maybe you guys can engrave something new in the original rings that will make them mean even more.
 
Ethical Slut: hippies who want to fuck anyone/anything.

Sex at Dawn: intellectual propaganda for people who want to fuck anyone/anything.

Overall, lots of talk about reasons for wanting to have sex with others besides the person you're currently with but not a lot of talk about choice or love. I'm still reading both, so this point of view may change.

When this started, I wanted Tess to just have a brief fling, and then we'd be back to normal. Today I want her to find someone who will treat her with love, and respect our relationship.

Mono bashing.... Why? Folks use language to describe it as Quaint, Archaic, Artificial, etc. You do realize many of us here right now standing beside you are monogamous. We may be involved with someone who's polyamorous, but we ain't. We're just the men and women who want to, or currently are, supporting our life partners. That counts for something.

My wedding ring. I took it off, and off it's stayed. Do I wear it or not? it's such a small thing to get caught up on, but I am.
This is an awesome post! :D I totally get it. I hear this from others in my life. and even if I try to explain that we are just a bunch of freaks trying to feel a sense of belonging in a culture that does not accept us, it doesn't make much of a difference. We are still freaks, still laughable to others, and other than places like this, we don't belong.

I feel for you, Freetime. But please realize that this is all we have, sometimes. It's an oasis in an ocean of mainstream. Sure, you might not like the subtle mono bashing. (Where, might I ask? I find that often people are caring and empathetic to monos. Maybe I am naive.) But part of realizing you are a freak is to get pissed off about it and lash out at those that are in some way to blame. It's part of a process of acceptance. It is not meant to be pointed at one person. Some have to walk through it to accept themselves.

Thanks for saying this. A lot of people probably think it when they come here.
 
Staaaaaaaaaaaaaarting over

Yep, it's true. M did not work out. I pretty much knew he wouldn't. He is way too self-centered and flaky. Nice guy, though.

So here's the deal. How do I communicate with Tess about this? I knew he wasn't it the first time I met him. I have very very good instincts. As nice a guy as he is, he is just in no way right for her.

Tess was thinking with her sex organs, so she missed all the cues. Being in heat does that to most of us. At least, I think it does. Lust is a lot of fun, but damn, does it mess with our minds.

Anyway, we're back to square one, looking for a bf/FWB. We are working on a list of things that worked/didn't work, what we liked and didn't like about this experience, what we want to do differently.

I'm thinking this may work out well for both of us, though. She gets a boyfriend and I get a motorcycle! Sound fair?

I'll keep you posted,
Freetime
 
How do i communicate with Tess about this? I knew he wasn't it the first time I met him.

Hmm, communicate what with her? Has she ended things with M? Or do you want her to end things with M? Is she hurting over M and you want to tell her that it's no use, M was a shithead, anyway?

We are working on a list of things that worked, didn't work, liked, didn't like...

It would be interesting to read about some of the things you come up with.
 
M did not work out. I pretty much knew he wouldn't. Way too self centered and far too flaky. Nice guy, though.

How do I communicate with her about this? I knew he wasn't it the first time I met him. I have good instincts. As nice a guy as he is, he is in no way right for her.

Well, I can share how my gf accommodates me dating a series of guys. She respects me and gives me space to connect with new people, whether she thinks they are 100% right for me, or not, whether I just want to satisfy my lust with them, or satisfy my curiosity about a certain kink activity, or connect in a deeper way (which is always my ultimate hope). It's my journey, not hers. She makes sure she knows their names, phone numbers and what town they live in. She expects a text when I return from a date (unless I return to her place afterward). Then she leaves the quest and adventures up to me, to glean what I can from this or that relationship. She comforts me if I feel frustrated or hurt. She shares in my joy when good things happen. Basically, she gives me space, respect, care and love.


Tess was thinking with her sex organs and missed all of the cues. Being in heat does that to most of us. Lust is a lot of fun, but damn does it mess with our minds.

And perhaps that is a lesson Tess can and will learn as she continues on her quest. There are some things we have to learn ourselves. Other's warnings can fall on deaf ears. Overprotective partners can be as detrimental as overprotective parents. IMO, YMMV, etc.
 
That's a very positive thing to do! I am amazed at how hard you guys are working at this. It's so wonderful to see someone being proactive. :)

Agreed.

Once upon a time, when my wife and I went to a poly workshop in Vancouver, I was struck by the awesome attitude the host had towards relationships. Her view was that every relationship, no matter the length, the depth, or the end, was a learning experience, and thus was appreciative of all of them.

You guys aren't at square one. You've got one under your belt now. You've got lessons learned. You've started developing ways to talk to each other about poly. You know that escorting her on dates is a bad idea for you. All those squares that you didn't even know were there when you started down this road the first time.

Wash, rinse, repeat, and keep learning with every evolution. Keep the faith, my friend.
 
And perhaps that is a lesson Tess can and will learn as she continues on her quest. There are some things we have to learn ourselves. Other's warnings can fall on deaf ears. Overprotective partners can be as detrimental as overprotective parents. IMO, YMMV, etc.

My thoughts, as well.
 
M did not work out... How do I communicate with Tess about this? I knew he wasn't it the first time I met him. I have good instincts. As nice as he is, he just is in no way right for her.
The only think I think you should communicate to her is that you are sorry she is feeling bad, and that you hope it works out better next time. Anything else just sounds like you are looking for an excuse to say "told you so."

Well, I hope you get a breather for a bit. It sounds like you might need one.
 
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